And once you go through all of this, I hope you come back for more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FauaBJGZtNk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFQ8Ub_TD78&t=0s, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGyW1Rp1Y2g&t=0s. I wrote a more detailed response to OP on this same thread and I'd recommend giving it a once over. Though I don`t get how to draw the line between realistic fears and unrealistic. Fast forward about a year I was living with my girlfriend in her house and we just bought a dog and I had a decent job working at an asphalt plant making better money and not killing myself everyday, things were okay. Better to not want to kill or maim, but sometimes not acting on thoughts is the best we can shoot for. Even if you get temporary relief the doubt (and fear) always returns soon after. Learning to live with uncertainty about the future and the past is so freaking difficult though. Its just not relevant to the crime. But there are many causes of testicular lumps, so although its natural to fear cancer until the doctor has assessed it it's unrealistic to assume the lump has to be cancer or to continue to worry once it's been checked out. My brain swears "they" are coming for me. Use your support system and let them know what you might be going through. I've mostly gotten over it now just by continuously reminding myself I'm doing nothing wrong. OCD symptoms are thus strategies that the person with OCD uses to protect themselves from their Core Fear, whatever that might be. I visited Youtube channel that often criticises Kremlin. I said some "poltical science stuff". I can`t totally discard probabilty of secret service I need some replies. I don`t get why medication is not working properly, why I can`t get rid of this "swarm of fear thoughts" The thing is that my I often have intrusive thoughts about harming/killing myself, so much so that I have attempted it this past summer. Could you buy one for delivery to Russia, or download an e-book online? Other times it just requires helping them to do things, or not do things, despite how terrified they are of the potential consequences. It comes like a feeling. Most people have this fear despite committing no crimes. In OCD the thing we fear always seems very real and very likely to happen unless we do the compulsions to stop it. Ever since, any time I see a cop or am reminded of law enforcement. I worked out, ate healthy and tried to keep a positive attitude but my job was ruining my life. I tried and failed multiple times and eventually got a really good streak going. The framework begins with the idea that everyone has a worst fear. Study the law, learn about scams and stuff so you will never ever fall under a victim or get in trouble because of ignorance of the law. I feel so much sorry for myself. The only problem is that in Russia you really can be jailed for political views. Whenever you feel OCD really compelling you to do something (checking, counting, etc.) To be honest, I am even sometimes thinking of commiting suicide as a means to end this constant anxiety. How do you cope with these kind of thoughts? I used to also think the same about suicide - in so much as I'll end up taking my own life. Yes you are definitely not alone. Prison reentry programs provide a sense of belonging, structure and support for people coming out of prison. If someone decides to do something wrong that is illegal, abandon them. I think that it depends on the subjetive experience you're having due to these thoughts. How to Be More Aware of Your Surroundings? That means when those thoughts come up, instead of ruminating, just say, You know, I cant be certain about what will happen. 4 steps don`t work properly with this particalar obsession. People: They are surrounded by other prisoners who may be unpredictable and of violent character or behavior; this creates fear leading to anxiety. I felt terrible about it and the guilt was killing me. My therapist believes that CBT is not for me. That's a shame, Richard. It might, or it might not be the case. 02 While he still struggles at times, he's developed habits that allow him to cope with his OCD on a daily basis, such as meditation, staying active and using humor to address his thoughts. I have no doubt CBT would help you, it's even used to help schizoid disorders quite commonly now. Press J to jump to the feed. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The fear of ending up in jail is common among people with OCD. They may begin with hints of truth, which is why they can be so alluring and grab attention fast. There are plenty of good self-help books in English. My Phychatrist told me that the other options of meds have worse effects. I tried everything to get rid of the depression and just deal with the jobs. I wish I never wisited that Youtube channel and never spoke for it. That is what I fear the most: not being able to find a job, putting my parents in debt, and other things like that. Hopefully this helps you feel a little less alone. NOT LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY. Im about to lose my job, my girlfriend and my dog because of this and I need help. Fear of my kids being taken away is a big one for me too. Only time helps honestly. I Need to Be Dead: I Am Fed up With My Life! How your mind keeps going over it, churning. I often worry I've run someone over in my car, I sometimes have to make myself not go back and check. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Never asked for it but never stopped it either. We`ve been discussing methods in political science and I mentioned that rational choice paradigm can explain terrorism and portrays terrirists as rational actors. Privet Richard. (My attempt at 'hello' in Russian!) In OCD the thing we fear always seems very real and very likely to happen unless we do the comp Obsessions are unfounded thoughts, fears, or worries. However intrusive your thoughts may seem at times, its important to remember that you may not have OCD. When I used to do these searches, I told myself it was to prove that sort of thing doesn't really happen but I end up convincing myself I'd be the first. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I remembered walking down the corridor from intake going thru barred doors that had to be buzzed in order to open and then the 8 of us approached the main cell house door that slid opened and closed behind us once we entered. Thank you for this comment. Why not talk to your therapist about the 4 steps? Having someone you can talk to can be a blessing in many ways. Then you know what you're trying to stop. So, the tiniest action thats typically insignificant may seem overly shameful and persist in an OCD brain. You matter and deserve help. Copyright OCD-UK 2004-2022 Thoughts like terrified of breaking the law without my knowledge, why do I constantly fear going to jail may nag their minds constantly. 2 Snowbear Your words are kind and warm Though I don`t get how to draw the line between realistic fears and unrealistic. For instance (sorry for de It may be physical or mental rituals such as thinking neutralizing thoughts, counting, checking the house is locked and safe (to stop the police breaking in easily) or it could be something specific to you that helps you feel safe. ALL of my obsessions are about either getting sued, going to jail or accidentally making someone else go to jail. This is their Core Fear. That's a shame, Richard. I have no doubt CBT would help you, it's even used to help schizoid disorders quite commonly now. But if theerapy isn't on Yes, irrational fear is a significant symptom of OCD. However, we are not able to help with suicide on an internet forum. For example, both conditions are characterized by intense irrational fear. But what it does take is effort every single day and pushing into your fears. Fear-obsessive Thoughts Of Going To Prison? Its not always the case, so I would stop you there if youre feeling alarmed. It's said that OCD usually kicks off when we start dedicating too much attention to too our intrusive thoghts. Finally I read the news that Robert Kraft was in trouble for doing what I did and I thought that I was going to go to jail. Sometimes things happen, don't take it too personally. The private prison industry is huge business here, and they lobby for more jailable offenses, to generate business. The obsessions and compulsions that characterize OCD can center around different themes. Depression+Anxiety+Sore back+NoFap brain is not a good combination. Then you can consider talking to them every time these thoughts threaten to plague your mind. Is there a concrete way to accept this and live in peace regardless? By talks I mean the process of psychitherapy. So, rather than fearing what hasnt happened, its better to focus on your present. And though I position myself as "pro-Kremlin expert" (though I try to remain as much scientist as possible), I still fear this scenario much. So, talking yourself through these thoughts should help you rationalize better. My therapist believes that CBT is not for me. * An exposure may also provide an opportunity to disconfirm an expected negative outcome of a certain behavior, but RF-ERP does not see this as the primary way that exposure works. But OCD sufferers feel anxiety and overwhelming guilt more than regular people. A smaller cohort of individuals with OCD, may also experience social anxiety. I don't think anyone has said this yet but you need to address the numbers thing. There are several resources and experts that specialize in treating OCD. Posts: 10. The good news is that youll also learn about how to keep these thoughts at bay. I posted a similar thread over on the anxiety board. You're overestimating how hard it actually is to get sent to jail. 1. It helps. It really helps. My doc says that my OCD is a symptom of more general shizotypical disorder and so meds are more important than anything Ive had this thought a lot, or played out stories in my head of these situation that wont happen. You can't allow yourself to change your actions or plans based on numbers. Hello ivieo. So you're not completely paranoid- like many I am down 24/7 because my brain keeps telling me that nothing matters, since I am eventually going to prison and my future will be ruined. Ruminating? Then I catch myself and get so distressed about magical thinking. For instance several years ago I found a lump on my testicle and got immediately scared that it is testicl cancer. WebFear of doing something illegal and going to jail Something that I can't get out of my head is the fear that I might go to jail because of doing something illegal by accident. Its the worst. First post on this forum. It's a very scary thing :/. Its relatively normal for one to fear real-life events. Hi I also struggled with prison OCD, feel free to PM me. This has also evolved into my kids being taken away too. Many people think that OCD symptoms are random. I was off the entire winter again with a lot of time to overthink and worry. Re: Pure-O: Scared of PrisonPlease help. She says that my problems and emotional traumas run much deeper, that CBT can help. After I failed the test and realized I had to go back to these awful jobs my depression/anxiety got much worse. I went through this and even went so far as to consulting a lawyer, even though it was all completely based in delusion. At this time, very little is known about toilet anxiety. I am scared for the whole week and I need support and ideas how can I cope. Medication (neuroleptics) is not working on me at all - I tried lots of different neureleptics. Causes, Symptoms and Treatment of Derealization Disorder, Hyper Conscious Awareness: How to Be More Aware of Your Surroundings. I still sometimes think I'll end up in prison for some reason. The wonderful u/froidinslip has written an invaluable post to help you navigate this time: https://www.reddit.com/r/OCD/comments/q4zeo1/please_read_this_before_posting_about_feeling/ You are not alone, and you have options. Of course this occasionally leads to intrusive thoughts about doing something illegal just because I can, but once I recognize them as just OCD, I can fight them off more easily. Visit our Anxiety Center to learn more about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), All right reserved. I catch myself assuming its gonna happen and that scares me even more. (For example deleting your youtube post was a So much so that they cant put it past them and start falling into the loop of intrusive thoughts.. WebIt is important to understand that OCD can make a person uncertain about the most basic things that they think, see, hear, touch, or experience otherwise. Your obsessive thoughts will keep the anxiety high no matter how often or how much reassurance you get. The attempt to reassure yourself by hiring lawyers didn't erase your unrealistic fear, deleting youtube content didn't give you relief, and when there is no knock at the door in the morning that won't bring relief either. I worked on shuting this thoghts for days and just one analitical article returned all this fear and obsession. Rumination-Focused ERP (RF-ERP) helps restore a persons sense of agency by helping them to understand why they engage in their symptoms and by systematically helping them to exercise control over those symptoms. WebRight now, I'm stuck on the fear of going to jail because of my real event OCD. It may be that your fear of going to jail OCD has developed because of an event in your real life. WebYes, I suffer from "hit and run" ocd everytime i drive. But contrary to what common sense might suggest about OCD patients, these people arent more likely to commit more crimes than usual. Even if this possibility were real, how should I behave? I've been down that rabbit hole and it only gets worse and worse with more and more numbers becoming "bad" and harder to avoid. My psychiatrist says that I need to stay for some time in hospital, so that they could administer mor drug-intensive therapy. That's why I am interested in hearing about the experiences of any individual who think they may suffer from a fear of going to the bathroom. If you suffer from claustrophobia, you might dread CT scans, MRIs and other tests that require confinement. It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. I think I would prefer to die than to experience years of prosecution, trial and imprisonment. Tbh I think most police in most places would look at a person that came in and said at nine they wanted to hurt a classmate, like they're nuts. Checking? "Please go find matching socks so people don't think we're neglecting you.". What would a courtroom say?". These intrusive thoughts can latch themselves onto anything you may consider valuable, including real-life events. This isn't really the best thing to do since it's an OCD "check" but it gave me a tool. Begging for help. Xanox and sort of. And somehow the problems with criminal code fear me much more than rabies, HIV or even cancer. It is difficult to say with conviction whether it happens for sure because each case is very different. You have to accept your fear is out of proportion to reality and that reassurance seeking and other compulsions (asking lawyers, checking youtube, deleting things) is what keeps the fear active. While most people would describe their worst fear in terms of a concrete event (e.g., losing a loved one, going to jail, losing all their money, getting cancer, going to hell, etc. Those are the signs that OCD is in play. But what it does take is effort every single day Your worries could stem from an external cause that is registered subconsciously in your brain. They are so terrified of what could happen if they didnt do these strategies that they lose any sense that they have a choice about whether they do. Same with you, wanting to go and ask the secret services for reassurance only maintains your belief that getting jailed is a likely outcome of this. 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